It’s been nearly a month since the NYPD’s transit chief accused the MTA of “fear mongering” over crime in the subways, in a showdown that eventually led to 250 more police being added to subway patrols. But even before that, the MTA was pointing to its customer survey, which shows 87% of former riders and 76% of current riders, out of 33,000 people surveyed say safety is a “very or extremely important factor” in deciding if they’ll ride transit again.

The MTA used that survey to justify the need for more policing. But since then ridership has steadily increased. And a closer look at the demographics, as well as another survey taken around the same time, show the MTA may have been overplaying the public’s fear factor.

Gothamist saw a demographic breakdown of the response to the survey, which the MTA has not posted publicly. It shows half of the respondents are white. While that roughly matches the overall subway ridership at the moment, it’s also a group that’s least likely to be targeted by police for minor infractions, like fare evasion. Recent reports show 92% of people arrested for fare evasion were Black and Hispanic, groups that don’t always feel safer seeing more police officers.

“It doesn’t take a fully qualified police officer to give people a sense of security,” said David Jones, an MTA board member and president and CEO of the Community Service Society. “Uniformed personnel on platforms and in front of gates are just as effective.”

"This is not a representative sample of subway riders," Sheyla A. Delgado,  Deputy Director for Analytics, Research and Evaluation Center - John Jay College (CUNY), wrote to Gothamist, after reviewing the demographic and summary of the results. "Given that there is no subway riders roster, it is expected to go the non-probability sample route. The only responsible manner to report these findings is to continuously say some version of, 'among those who answered the survey.'"

The Regional Plan Association (RPA) recently conducted its own survey of commuters across New York, New Jersey and Connecticut in March and came away with very different results. While it only surveyed 804 adults, it found just 19% of its respondents were concerned about crime in the subways. The number one factor holding commuters back from riding was an ongoing fear of COVID-19, followed by a preference for driving. 

The RPA survey found 26% of New York City respondents were concerned about crime. About a quarter of them were people of color, and just 14% were white, a much smaller portion than those in the MTA’s survey.

Danny Pearlstein, policy and communications director with Riders Alliance, called the RPA’s survey scientific, but said the MTA’s survey was “long and confusing.” He questioned whether it accurately captures the feeling of current and former commuters.

“More than two million people take the train every day, overwhelmingly without incident,” Pearlstein wrote in a statement. “The governor owes real riders fast, frequent, reliable, and affordable public transit service. Discouraging people from riding the New York subway does the city an immense disservice and it puts riders in harm's way.“

The MTA has hired more than 200 private security guards to patrol the subways, and the NYPD agreed to add unarmed volunteer officers to patrol as well. Though Mayor Bill de Blasio says the police presence “makes up the largest NYPD Transit Force in 25 years,” the agency still wants more officers.

“I want when you’re pulling into a station, I want people to feel a presence,” Interim New York City Transit President Sarah Feinberg said last week. “I want people to know if they don't see a police officer on that platform they’re likely to see one at the next station they’re likely to see one walking onto their train.” 

“How do you make sure that you’re bringing riders back, that you’re bringing people who are sitting on the sidelines, haven’t come back to the system yet, how do you bring them back to the system?” she asked. “Bring them back with giving them confidence on being safe from COVID exposure and confidence on crime and harassment, that’s what our customer survey seems to suggest.”

The MTA has been trying to lure riders back as 24-hour service has resumed, while at the same time prodding the city to add more police to patrol stations in an effort to make riders feel safe, and deter some crimes before they occur. The MTA has said the addition of 250 police officers isn’t enough. 

"Our customers of all backgrounds have been incredibly clear: their top priority is to feel safe, secure, and confident in their commute underground and on buses," Feinberg said in a statement to Gothamist/WNYC on Tuesday. "At this pivotal moment in the history of mass transit in New York, our calls for more police officers and mental health experts in the system are in lockstep with the demands of our riders. The City must do more to ensure that uniformed police officers and mental health experts are deployed across the system so that more riders continue returning to the subways."

Still, riders appear to be voting with their feet even as a rash of random and shocking incidents in the subways continues. There were five days in a row last week when ridership topped 2 million, a consistent and recent high for the subways. 

The MTA board and top leadership meet Wednesday, May 26th, when they will have a chance to discuss policing in the subways with NYPD Transit Chief Kathleen O’Reilly for the first time since she accused the agency of fear mongering

This story has been updated to include a comment from Sheyla A. Delgado of John Jay College and an additional comment from NYC Transit Interim President Sarah Feinberg.